Image caption Katharine, Ellie and the Most Reverend Justin Welby

The Church needs to do more to hug disability and mental health, the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby says, reaping on the experience of two of his daughters.

Justin – he holds we use his given name – reveals that Katharine’s mental health rigors and Ellie’s learning disabilities, had “really fetched it to the front of[ his] mind”.

He was speaking to the BBC Ouch podcast, made by the BBC’s disability team.

Sitting beside his daughters, Ellie, 24, and Katharine, 32, Justin encourages them to speak openly, even if it is difficult for him to hear.

He begins by taking Ellie’s hand – this is the first time she has spoken publicly.

Taking part in a debate on exclusion with other disabled studio clients, Ellie says: “The church I go to now, I sit at the back because I don’t genuinely feel comfortable.

“They’re very friendly in my religion, but sometimes I can feel a bit out of residence there.”

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